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Friday, October 27, 2006

What We Say Versus What We Mean

I'm cribbing from myself on this post. I wrote a comment at Article 19 about Don's response to a post by Kevin Drum, which in turn was commenting on a piece in today's Wall Street Journal. The Journal was taking a look at the racial overtones of Tennessee's senatorial race for Majority Leader Bill Frist's seat. If Dem Harold Ford, Jr., wins, he'll be the first African-American senator from the South since Reconstruction.

The specific point that spurred all this discussion was the phenomenon of African-Americans doing better in pre-election polls than they do in the final vote count. The first time that I'm aware this situation was identified was in the 1982 California governor's race. In pre-election polls, Tom Bradley, the African-American mayor of LA, had a nice lead over state Attorney General George Deukmejian (numbers are hard to come by 24 years later, but the final Field poll gave him an 8-point lead, 54-46), but somewhere between the poll and the ballot box, enough people changed their minds that Bradley lost 51-49. (Interestingly, that same year the final Field poll for the California senate race between two white guys nailed the final numbers exactly.) No one had an explanation for Bradley's loss except that voters were claiming to support him while voting against him.

In Douglas Wilder's 1989 Virginia gubernatorial race, pre-election polls put him up by an average of 7 points, yet the final vote was close enough that, although he won, it was only confirmed after a recount. That same year, David Dinkins, predicted to beat Rudy Giuliani for New York mayor by 14 points ended up winning by only 2. Harvey Gantt, who ran against Jesse Helms for a North Carolina senate seat in 1990, is sometimes cited as another example of the phenomenon, but I'd like to see the specific numbers on that one. Gantt was leading at some points of the campaign, but Helms pulled out a raft of racist ads and clawed his way back into the race. I'd be curious to see whether the final polls reflected his comeback and predicted a close race or if they still gave it to Gantt.

One potential explanation for the discrepancy was offered by Time magazine in the aftermath of the Wilder and Dinkins contests. One pollster looked at some of his numbers from the Wilder race in an unexpected way and discovered that when white respondents were questioned by what they believed were white interviewers, they would break toward Wilder's white opponent by 16 points. If the interviewers were perceived to be African-American, they supported Wilder by 10.

Of course, this was seventeen years ago. Have we changed during the interim, or does the same situation still apply? The Ford-Corker race might give us some clue, but Corker and the Repubs are digging deep into their past and pulling out some racist tricks so that they win the old-fashioned Southern strategy way. Time ended its article by suggesting, "Pollsters in black-white contests should learn to take the discrepancy into account -- at least until such racial match-ups cease to be novelties." Maybe the novelty hasn't warn off yet.

13 Comments:

At 12:38 PM, October 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to point out that (while I am unaware of how the numbers stand today) most residents of TN were unaware of the fact that Ford was African American – during previous polling cycles. (as odd as that may seem) So, it seems likely therefore, that the latest ads were intended to draw the reaction they have in order to get the “liberal media” to point that fact out over and over and over again in the way they have.

 
At 9:25 PM, October 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's light skinned, but I find it hard to believe that Tennessee voters know (or knew, as the case may be) that little about him. Which polls reported that Tennesseans were ignorant of Ford's race, and what kind of numbers do they report now?

 
At 12:54 AM, October 28, 2006, Blogger Don said...

My brother made a good observation the other night - that the danger is not so much that voters decide against him out of direct racist sentiment. It's that they don't want a Senator who (in their minds) make "racial issues" out of things. And that the race-baiting going on here is not the effort to bring over racists out of the closet, but to provoke cries of "racism" from Ford and his camp. That's what may lose him more votes than the realization that he is, in fact, black. Luckily he hasn't really taken the bait. I thought he was great on Bill Maher tonight turning it back around as a values question for the GOP, not for their being racist, but for putting smut on family tv hours (half-naked suggestive lady). So long as he doesn't look like he's playing the victim, and especially on racial grounds, this episode could turn into a positive for him i think.

 
At 8:48 AM, October 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

O' yeah, him going after the ad because it featured a naked woman during "family hour" programming was f@#king brilliant.

 
At 3:46 PM, October 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That suggestive ad has already had some effect. According to TPM Cafe, its producer was forced to pull out from his position as a consultant for Wal-Mart's voter-registration program. He's apparently too toxic for a nice family-values operation like Wal-Mart.

 
At 6:01 PM, October 28, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

I forget where I read it, but I "heard" that the Canadian's complained about it too.

 
At 7:01 PM, October 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't hear that, but it wouldn't surprise me. I couldn't figure out quite why the Republicans brought the Canadians into the equation in the first place. Was that a reference to some event or statement that I missed, or just gratuitous Canadian-bashing?

 
At 7:27 PM, October 28, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

from www.talk.newsweek.com

Those Canadians. They're So Cute--Er, Formidable--When They're Angry
Contributed by The Editors



The problem with the Republican ad targeting Harold Ford Jr. is not the bare-shouldered woman who, in a mock man-on-the-street interview, states that she met him at a Playboy party -- and then says, with a wink, "Harold, call me." No, the seeming attempt to play to racial stereotypes in an election where Ford is trying to become the first black senator from the South since Reconstruction isn't what's tasteless. What's distasteful is that the ad portrays Canada as a country not doing its part in the global war on terror. Or at least this is what's got Canadians steamed as all get out. According to a Canadian Press wire story that ran today, the government of Canada lodged a protest with the White House and asked them to pull the ad.

 
At 7:30 PM, October 28, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

Just gratuitous, which considering the casualties from Afghanistan, I can see why they'd be upset.

 
At 12:40 PM, October 29, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Corker pulls this out, the ad will be considered shameful in retrospect, but we'll all know that it worked. It will join tactics such as Willie Horton, Jesse Helms's "Hands" ad, the GW Bush whisper campaign against McCain in South Carolina that no one will explicitly accept but that also have no apparent downside. The campaigns that use these strategies win their elections. They have to endure a little bit of shame directed at them at the time, but they sidestep that, anyway (both Corker and Ken Mehlman refused to accept responsibility for the ad--I guess there's some rogue campaign bot that slipped it through when no one was looking). If even John McCain has gotten over the slime thrown at his family, then there's absolutely no effective downside to this kind of slimy campaigning. Why should we ever expect it to stop?

 
At 10:57 PM, October 29, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

Believe me, I don't.

Rather, my response is simply that democrats need to get over the part where “they” insist on (to borrow a phrase) taking tennis rackets to this gunfight.

 
At 1:33 AM, October 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand the Dems need to fight on an equal level, and if that means a race to the bottom then I don't want to see the Dems opt out, but I don't see how any of us benefit in the long run. A fight in the gutter turns too many voters off, and I believe the Repubs have more diehards who will vote no matter what than Dems do. The more that campaigns repel voters away from politics, the better it is for Republicans.

 
At 4:52 PM, October 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Polio and Cholera 'worked' for a long time, until humans invented societies that were generally immune to such problems. Why should that which we choose to call negative campaigning be any different? If the Dems represent anything good, it is the ability humans have to overcome themselves, to, when the need arises, form unions more perfect. If they lose sight of this, and strive to become nothing more than simply the best mud slingers on TV, then we are in deep doo doo (shit?) indeed.

 

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