Talk Talk Talk Talk Talk Myself to Death: Obama Possibly Thinking He Might Run for President, Maybe

Sunday, October 22, 2006

Obama Possibly Thinking He Might Run for President, Maybe

Barack Obama made it official today. It's seemed obvious since his book came out (was it a book tour or a presidential campaign?), but he told Russert on Meet the Press this morning that the door was open to his running. What does it mean? Well, he won't be quite as coy (though there's still a whole lot of coy between now and an actual announcement), and other potential candidates will have to take his potential candidacy into account in making their own decisions (although that's not to say they weren't already).

My opinion hasn't really changed. There's no denying that he's very charismatic, but that seems to be about all anybody's got to say about him. Joe Klein wrote a huge Time cover story last week under the tag "Why Barack Obama Could Be The Next President," but all he really offered was that Obama attracts huge, enthusiastic crowds and seems to be a pretty middle-of-the-road guy.

Maureen Dowd also wrote about the current wave of Obamamania yesterday, criticizing his high profile and low content, closing her column with the question: "Does Barack Obama want to be a celebrity or a man of history — or is there no longer any difference?"

Frank Rich, who we usually quote at length on Sundays, examines Obama, as well, using his headline to offer a warning: "Obama Is Not a Miracle Elixir." But despite that title, Rich seems like he's already on the bandwagon:

Enter Barack Obama. To understand the hysteria about a Democratic senator who has not yet served two years and is mainly known for a single speech at the 2004 convention, you have to appreciate just how desperate the Democrats are for a panacea for all their ills. In the many glossy cover articles about Obamamania, the only real suspense is whether a Jack or Bobby Kennedy analogy will be made in the second paragraph or the fifth. Men's Vogue (cover by Annie Leibovitz) went so far as to say that the Illinois senator "alone has the potential to one day be mentioned in the same breath" as Richard Wright, Ralph Ellison, Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. Why not throw in Mark Twain and Sammy Davis Jr.?

This is a lot to put on the shoulders of anyone, even someone as impressive as Mr. Obama. Though he remains a modest and self-effacing guy from all appearances, he is encouraging the speculation about seeking higher office — and not as a coy Colin Powell-style maneuver to sell his new book, "The Audacity of Hope." Mr. Obama hasn't been turning up in Iowa for the corn dogs. He consistently concedes he’s entertaining the prospect of a presidential run.

There's no reason to rush that decision now, but it's a no-brainer. Of course he should run, assuming his family is on the same page. He's 45, not 30, and his slender résumé in public office (which also includes seven years as a state senator) should be no more of an impediment to him than it was to the White House's current occupant. As his Illinois colleague Dick Durbin told The Chicago Tribune last week, "I said to him, 'Do you really think sticking around the Senate for four more years and casting a thousand more votes will make you more qualified for president?'" Instead, such added experience is more likely to transform an unusually eloquent writer, speaker and public servant into another windbag like Joe Biden.

Rich gives lip service to one of Obama's shortcomings--his perceived overly cautious nature--but then points out that Obama has been against the Iraq War from the beginning. Apparently that's enough win him over. Here's his final paragraph:

The Democrats may well win on Election Day this year. But one of their best hopes for long-term viability in the post-Bush era is that Barack Obama steps up and changes the party before the party of terminal timidity and equivocation changes him.

Since we're already behind The New York Times's subscription curtain anyway (thanks to donkey o.d.), why don't we take a look at Frank Herbert's Monday column. Herbert interviewed Obama at the John F. Kennedy Library on Friday night, and he reports the same enthusiastic crowds.

It's a measure of how starved the country is for a sensible, appealing, intelligent, trustworthy leader that a man who until just a couple of years ago was an obscure state senator in Illinois is now suddenly, in the view of an awful lot of voters, the person we should install in the White House.

But Herbert, clearly impressed with Obama, adds a word of caution, as well.

With all due respect to Senator Obama, this is disturbing. He may be capable of being a great president. Someday. But one quick look around at the state of the nation and the world tells us that we need to be more careful than we have been in selecting our leaders. There shouldn’t be anything precipitous about the way we pick our presidents.

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The giddiness surrounding the Obama phenomenon seems to be an old-fashioned mixture of fun, excitement and a great deal of hope. His smile is electric, and when he laughs people tend to laugh with him. He's the kind of politician who makes people feel good.

But the giddiness is crying out for a reality check. There's a reason why so many Republicans are saying nice things about Mr. Obama, and urging him to run. They would like nothing more than for the Democrats to nominate a candidate in 2008 who has a very slender résumé, very little experience in national politics, hardly any in foreign policy — and who also happens to be black.

The Republicans may be in deep trouble, but they believe they could pretty easily put together a ticket that would chew up Barack Obama in 2008.

If Herbert's right and Repubs believe Obama would be easy to beat in a presidential bid, that's not enough reason to stop him from running. They can easily be wrong--just look at their ostensible confidence this time around as we're approaching November. But it is a good warning that we should be more sure of what we're going to get before we all wholeheartedly throw our support behind Obama.

10 Comments:

At 2:46 AM, October 23, 2006, Blogger mungojelly said...

I feel like it ought to be obligatory when talking about this sort of thing to add a footnote disavowing the absurdity of this whole political process that we've inherited. Splitting everyone up into two sides is appropriate preparation for a kickball game, not an actual nation.

Have we no chance short of a second Revolution of deciding that our next wave of leadership shall consist of something other than a single individual chosen through a money-stained farce, a childish game? Couldn't we have a new politics, not just a new politician?

<3

 
At 3:19 AM, October 23, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know I’m a bit of a broken record on these points but here I go again and just to make things interesting lets start with financial viability …

Of all the democrats eyeing 2008 only five have the wherewithal fundraising-wise to toss their hats into the primaries … Clinton, Gore, Obama, Kerry and Edwards. (in that order / and Obama out-raises Clinton sans Bill which means: one ill-timed Big Mac could determine the next president.).

Of that group only Clinton, Obama, and perhaps Edwards are unknown and therefore potential successful quantities when it comes to the national political stage. Which is to say that both Gore and Kerry have demonstrated that they don’t have what it takes to WIN.

Of the three only Clinton and Obama have an economic vision that includes globalization as the positive foregone conclusion it is by virtually any measure. Which is to say that Edwards strikes me as a good man trying to honor his son but his worldview is a bit too close to Lou Dobbs land to lead us to a green post Bush. (Gore would do nicely in this regard as well, but as I said, he can not win)

Of the two, both would most likely choose the same VP nom (read: Wes Clark)

But how would they do in a national election though? The problem for any democrat in 2008 is that all three of the most likely republican nominees can win states that Gore and or Kerry carried in the East, West and Midwest … so the democratic nominee will HAVE TO be able to win states in the south to balance that out.

Now a democratic sock-puppet could pick up Louisiana at the moment, so the question is which of the two has the best shot at the rest of south.

As near as I can see Clinton starts the day with Arkansas, a better than average shot at Florida and a 50/50 shot in Georgia and Virginia.

Obama starts the day with GA, a better than average shot at South Carolina and a 50/50 shot at Florida and you guessed it, Virginia.

O’ and seeing as how they are both Midwesterners it remains to be seen which could hold onto better as a whole – but I’d give the edge to Obama in at least one Midwestern state … Ohio.

I could go on into all that vision stuff from The Way to Win but I suppose my point here is that there are a lot of good quantifiable reasons for Obama to run in 2008 an not a single quantifiable and or historical example of how his much talked about “inexperience” would negatively impact his chances.

More importantly, to my mind at least, if Iraq proves anything it’s that it is time for the 60’s to be over - and President Obama would end it. (to be fair, so would President Romney but come-on).

 
At 6:15 PM, October 23, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as Obama gives us dribs and drabs of a possible presidential campaign, there's really not much to do but repeat ourselves. I'm not going to quibble with your stats on financing or tactics, but I wonder if it's too early for them to mean anything yet. I can't help but remember that the main point in John Kerry's favor early on was his "electability." We went for him on that basis and then found ourselves with a candidate that, on closer examination, we didn't like very much. Obama certainly seems more likeable on the surface, but I'd prefer we do the closer examination up front this time. That's why I want to talk about substance--it's just that we don't have much to talk about yet.

And don't count Al Gore out yet, either. Adlai Stevenson and William Jennings Bryan not withstanding, the last presidential loser to mount a second campaign for the White House came out a winner. The comparison is close on a number of fronts--a sitting vice-president who lost an extremely close election that, had it been contested, might have found enough skullduggery to bring the results into question. Gore could well become the new New Nixon.

 
At 7:32 PM, October 23, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

I count Gore out for a fairly simple reason ... National Vison or rather, his complete lack of one.

Like it or not he is a suit full of issues that democrats happen to agree with. (not unlike the 1st President Bush)but not much else. I am a complete political/policy junkie (I read think tank position papers in my spare time, for christ sake)and I can't tell you what Gore thinks America should be. I know what Edwards thinks, I know what Obama thinks and even though she's been downplaying it, I know what Clinton's governing philosophy would be.

That Vision thing is the difference between Mr. Gore and Mr. Nixon.

 
At 7:40 PM, October 23, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

By the way, when you write "substance" somehow I read that as an issue by issue issue-checklist. There is very little else to recomend a Gore presidency.

I know many people support him, I don't have any idea why. Yes, he would be a fine and capable president (so was Bush 41) but there is clearly nothing transcendent (read: "greatness") in the man and Bush will leave behind problems that will require it.

 
At 3:42 PM, October 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attempted to do the math on your positions:

Peter Collinson said...

I know I’m a bit of a broken record on these points but here I go again and just to make things interesting lets start with financial viability …

Of all the democrats eyeing 2008 only five have the wherewithal fundraising-wise to toss their hats into the primaries … Candidate D, Possible Candidate E, Candidate A, Candidate C and Candidate B. (in that order / and Candidate A out-raises Candidate D sans Former President F which means: one ill-timed Big Mac could determine the next president.).

Of that group only Candidate D, Candidate A, and perhaps Candidate B are unknown and therefore potential successful quantities when it comes to the national political stage. They other two, Possible Candidate E and Candidate C have demonstrated that they don’t have what it takes to WIN.

Of the three unknown candidates only Candidate D and Candidate A have an Vision Thing BB that includes Economic Model J as the positive foregone conclusion it is by virtually any measure. Which is to say that Candidate B strikes me as a good man trying to honor his son but his worldview is a bit too close to Lou Dobbs land to lead us to a green post Faux Cowboy I. (Possible Candidate E would do nicely in this regard as well, but I repeat, he can not win)

Of the two unknown candidates with a vision that includes Economic Model J, both would most likely choose the same VP nom (read: Possible Veep K)

But how would they do in a national election though? The problem for any member of Political Pary L in 2008 is that all three of the most likely Political Party M nominees can win states that Possible Candidate E and or Candidate C carried in the Region N, Region O and Region P … so the Political Pary L nominee will HAVE TO be able to win states in Region Q to balance that out.

Now a Political Pary L sock-puppet could pick up Member State R of Region Q at the moment, so the question is which of the two has the best shot at the rest of Region Q.

As near as I can see Candidate D starts the day with Member State S of Region Q, a better than average shot at Member State U of Region Q and a 50/50 shot in Member State V of Region Q and Member State W of Region Q.

Candidate A starts the day with GA, a better than average shot at Member State X of Region Q and a 50/50 shot at Member State V of Region Q and you guessed it, Member State W of Region Q.

O’ and seeing as how they are both from Region P it remains to be seen which could hold onto better as a whole – but I’d give the edge to Candidate A in at least one Region P state … Member State X of Region Q.

I could go on into all that Content From Source Y but I suppose my point here is that there are a lot of good quantifiable reasons for Candidate A to run in 2008 an not a single quantifiable and or historical example of how his much talked about “inexperience” would negatively impact his chances.

More importantly, to my mind at least, if Iraq proves anything it’s that it is time for the 60’s to be over - and President Candidate A would end it. (to be fair, so would President Romney but come-on).

Doug said...

As long as Candidate A gives us dribs and drabs of a possible presidential campaign, there's really not much to do but repeat ourselves. I'm not going to quibble with your stats on financing or tactics, but I wonder if it's too early for them to mean anything yet. I can't help but remember that the main point in Candidate C's favor early on was his "electability." We went for him on that basis and then found ourselves with a candidate that, on closer examination, we didn't like very much. Candidate A certainly seems more likeable on the surface, but I'd prefer we do the closer examination up front this time. That's why I want to talk about substance--it's just that we don't have much to talk about yet.

And don't count Possible Candidate E out yet, either. Politcal Figure Z and Politcal Figure AA not withstanding, the last presidential loser to mount a second campaign for the White House came out a winner. The comparison is close on a number of fronts--a sitting vice-president who lost an extremely close election that, had it been contested, might have found enough skullduggery to bring the results into question. Possible Candidate E could well become the new New Former President G.

Peter Collinson said...

I count Possible Candidate E out for a fairly simple reason ... Vision Thing CC or rather, his complete lack of Vision Thing CC.

Like it or not he is a suit full of issues that supporters of Political Pary L happen to agree with. (not unlike the Former President H)but not much else. I am addicted to politics (I perform Political Junkie Behaviour DD, for christ sake) and I can't tell you what Possible Candidate E thinks America should be. I know what Candidate B thinks, I know what Candidate A thinks and even though she's been downplaying it, I know what Candidate D's governing philosophy would be.

That Vision thing is the difference between Possible Candidate E and Former President G.

Peter Collinson said...

By the way, when you write "substance" somehow I read that as an issue by issue issue-checklist. There is very little else to recomend a Possible Candidate E presidency.

I know many people support him, I don't have any idea why. Yes, he would be a fine and capable president (so was Former President H) but there is clearly nothing Positve Personal Attribute EE (read: "variant on Positve Personal Attribute EE") in the man and Faux Cowboy I will leave behind problems that will require it.

>>> still not sure what it means

 
At 6:50 PM, October 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>> still not sure what it means

That's because you've only done half the work. It won't start making sense until you flow chart and graph it.

 
At 12:06 AM, October 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would, but I keep getting hung up on the choices available.

 
At 12:42 AM, October 26, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

There’s been confusion? That sucks, so please allow me to translate:

In order to transcend the roughly 500-member evil oligarchic cabal, that rules these United States of America (and thereby the world) in the name of a mass of 300 or so million disinterested and purportedly powerless sheep (who often become visibly agitated anytime the idea that there might be one or two responsibilities attached to that whole part where they rule the world comes up), an entrance fee of totaling up at around $45-million dollars will be required. Only 5 or so individuals from each of two supposedly opposed, and therefore colour-coded, sides of the aforementioned cabal will be able to do so during “our” upcoming staged transcendence ritual. Said ritual will consist primarily of said individuals performing a semi-meaningless vaudeville act magic show for said sheep in a series of proscribed localities. In each locality approximately 25% of the sheep will dub one of the 5 their “leader” based on a range of relatively trivial criteria likely to include race, sex, looks, mannerisms, voice, presentational aptitude and even how much of a sense they get of how much “they” might enjoy having a beer with each respective cabal member.

Using my rough sense of the trivial likes and dislike of the sheep in each locality, I foolishly attempted to gauge the 5 would-be “leader’s” chances to do so successfully.

 
At 12:51 AM, October 26, 2006, Blogger Peter Collinson said...

O' and said attempt was completely pointless as the cabal has no doubt pre-rigged the outcome of the ritual in some way.

 

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